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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on May 20, 2018 16:47:38 GMT -6
Can we just start choosing other amendments we don't really care for? Worked well with the 18th amendment. The 2nd amendment is the fons et origo of one of our biggest problems. Getting rid of it and passing tough legislation creates new problems, but they are problems worthy of a solution.
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Post by okie on May 20, 2018 18:54:18 GMT -6
My biggest issue with a gun ban is it's basically removing the second amendment, and most will claim it's old and outdated. Can we just start choosing other amendments we don't really care for? WTF do you think an amendment is? It only takes 2/3 vote of congress to create a constitutional amendment and that amendment in effect can be the repeal of a previous amendment (e.g. 18th amendment repeal). American Government 101
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Post by okie on May 20, 2018 19:14:05 GMT -6
Militias are irrelevant in modern society (despite the ravings of the compound crazies). There was no standing army when the second amendment was ratified.
The typical musket of 1791 had a one-round magazine capacity, and it could fire around three effective rounds per minute. It's maximum accuracy range had to be within 150 feet. Compared to a modern-day AR-15, which has a magazine capacity of up to 100 rounds, has an effective fire of 45 rounds a minute (without mods) , and an accuracy range of 1650 feet.
To suggest that the second amendment is in place to defend against st a tyrannical government is a ridiculous notion too. The us military could obliterate the state of Idaho from a van on Pennsylvania Avenue.
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Post by okie on May 20, 2018 19:30:01 GMT -6
Your AR-15 is cute and all, but you might need one of these if you are going to take on the federal government.
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Post by okie on May 20, 2018 19:41:12 GMT -6
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on May 20, 2018 19:45:09 GMT -6
David slew Goliath with a sling shot
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Post by okie on May 20, 2018 20:10:28 GMT -6
Goliath was actually a pussy.
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Post by x on May 20, 2018 20:13:51 GMT -6
David slew Goliath with a sling shot David turned out to be a dick. We need to ban slingshots.
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Post by okie on May 20, 2018 20:13:52 GMT -6
God can't even defeat an iron chariot.
Judges 1:19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
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Post by x on May 20, 2018 20:46:35 GMT -6
How do you propose to get rid of several hundred million guns that are for the most part in that hands of law-abiding citizens who don't want to give them up? Walter had an idea that has promise if anybody that counts is looking at it. He said that gun owners should be required to carry insurance and held responsible for everything that happened with their gun. I'm not sure if he thought it through to the part where it would require gun registration but I still think it might be a good idea. -walter rarely thinks anything through. I do agree with this concept. And that is not being reactionary and it is a small measure but might effective.
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Post by daneaux on May 22, 2018 9:00:15 GMT -6
"David slew Goliath with a sling shot"
The US Government can conquer any army but not its people. Ask Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq.
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Post by daneaux on May 22, 2018 9:01:55 GMT -6
"-walter rarely thinks anything through. I do agree with this concept. And that is not being reactionary and it is a small measure but might effective."
Well if it's not reactionary you can be sure Walter didn't think it through.
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