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Post by okie on May 25, 2018 18:39:34 GMT -6
If this is the core tenent, what are the others? There are no others. That is the point. It isn't a system. Yes, it isn't "a" system, it is many systems, just like all religions. Your atheism doesn't even fit within Webster's definition. |
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Post by okie on May 26, 2018 6:58:34 GMT -6
Does morality evolve?
Does our conduct as a species improve or diminish over time? Are we more ethical than we were 100 years ago? 300? 1000? 10,000?
We claim to have abolished slavery, we claim to oppose genecide, we claim to protect minorities... I am free to go about my business today without significant concern for my physical safety. Generally children are not being worked 12 hours a day.
Do we grow ethically as a species or just morph?
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on May 26, 2018 10:15:15 GMT -6
How does it not fit?
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Post by okie on May 26, 2018 10:21:57 GMT -6
a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods |
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on May 26, 2018 14:28:27 GMT -6
a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods Webster's says: Definition of atheist : a person who does not believe in the existence of a god or any gods. |
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Post by okie on May 26, 2018 15:31:26 GMT -6
Your atheistic denomination does not fit either of those definitions.
You say it is highly unlikely (which I agree with). These definitions say god does not exist (an absolute).
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on May 26, 2018 17:04:25 GMT -6
"These definitions say god does not exist"
No, they do not.
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Post by okie on May 26, 2018 18:45:02 GMT -6
Yes, they do.
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on May 26, 2018 19:32:36 GMT -6
No, they say an atheist does not believe a god exists. That is not the same thing.
Your inability to understand this is your downfall on this issue.
I do not believe in many things because the evidence in favor of those things is poor or non-existent.
There could be a tooth fairy but I don't believe there is a fairy that leaves money for baby teeth. There isn't any good evidence for it.
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Post by okie on May 26, 2018 20:44:21 GMT -6
I have no downfall on this issue. You cannot explain the cause of the Big Bang. There are unanswered questions regarding the origin of life. I find it very unlikely that it is some supreme being, but I do not say there is none. That requires faith and is quite arrogant.
Regarding your slipshod analogy of the tooth fairy, there is no question to be answered here by an adult.
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on May 26, 2018 21:19:47 GMT -6
Do you think that anything that has not been proven false is possibly true? I pay you the compliment of assuming you do not.
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Post by okie on May 27, 2018 7:45:04 GMT -6
Irrelevant.
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on May 27, 2018 13:56:45 GMT -6
It isn't irrelevant. You cannot prove the tooth fairy doesn't exist. Yet, I assume you do not believe in the tooth fairy.
You don't even know the origin of the tooth fairy myth. Maybe there is a tooth fairy but she has stopped interacting with humans for now. Is that a possibility?
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Post by okie on May 27, 2018 14:17:49 GMT -6
To compare the concept of God to the tooth fairy is the kind is shallow semantics that make atheists look ridiculous.
Anyone over 8 years old can tell you how money ends up under your pillow when you are four years old.
Can you explain anything that happened before the Big Bang? I seriously doubt it. If you can you get a free trip to Stockholm. Most people choose to believe that there was some sort of higher power that they call God. I have serious doubts about that explanation, but I certainly don't put it in the same category as the tooth fairy.
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Post by sobchaksecurity on May 27, 2018 15:16:57 GMT -6
jesus christ
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