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Post by daneaux on Aug 17, 2018 9:01:17 GMT -6
I heard that the song Respect was written by Otis Redding and it was intended to be a statement on keeping your woman in line.
Aretha apparently disagreed.
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Aug 25, 2018 18:51:06 GMT -6
RIP John McCain
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Post by okie on Aug 25, 2018 19:03:48 GMT -6
He was a good man. I did not agree with him politically, but I admired and respected him.
RIP
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Aug 25, 2018 19:18:05 GMT -6
He was a cheerleader and enabler of war machines. So there's that.
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Post by okie on Aug 25, 2018 19:51:42 GMT -6
He was a cheerleader and enabler of war machines. So there's that. I never said he wasn’t a republican. I simply respected him. |
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Aug 25, 2018 19:53:21 GMT -6
He gave us Sarah Palin, so there's that.
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Post by okie on Aug 25, 2018 20:12:41 GMT -6
The GOP has quite a legacy of picking bad running mates.
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Aug 25, 2018 21:16:23 GMT -6
He is a war hero. I respect that. He stood up to Trump. I respect that. He supported warmongering policies that cost thousands of innocent lives. I don't respect that.
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Post by okie on Aug 25, 2018 22:00:14 GMT -6
He opposed the torture of POWs against his party line.
McCain was duped on the Iraq war just like 95% of America. He since admitted it was a mistake.
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Post by okie on Aug 25, 2018 22:06:16 GMT -6
There was a lot of his politics I disagreed with but...
He banned Trump from his funeral.
*drops mic*
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Post by daneaux on Aug 27, 2018 7:40:52 GMT -6
He gave us Sarah Palin, so there's that. ...and by doing so he gave us Barrack Obama. |
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Aug 27, 2018 8:02:32 GMT -6
All I'm saying is that never seeing a bombing campaign that you didn't like is not a mere political difference.
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Aug 27, 2018 8:20:12 GMT -6
In the midst of a national frenzy of hagiography it is always uncomfortable for iconoclasts like myself, nevertheless I think it important to see clearly the impact of choices made by politicians who wield real power over the lives of others.
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Post by okie on Aug 27, 2018 10:05:44 GMT -6
I agree with your stance on aggression. I am pro defense, but anti-war. I believe the 2 most important issues are defense and education.
Regarding McCain, I think labeling him a Warhawk is exaggerated. McCain opposed Reagan in putting troops in Lebanon. He has opposed any notion of war with Iran. MCCain describes the War in Iraq as a terrible mistake. He also vehemently opposed the use is torture on prisoners.
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Post by daneaux on Aug 27, 2018 10:39:38 GMT -6
I just started reading The Last Lion by Manchester.
By comparison, McCain was not a war hawk. His desire to use the military was judicious. He only wanted force employed when it was necessary. We all thought it was necessary in Iraq. I was personally a skeptic until Powell's testimony. That convinced me that there were WMD's.
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