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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Dec 21, 2019 12:03:22 GMT -6
Christianity Today makes the obvious moral argument against Trump, akin to pointing out the Emperor having no clothes on.
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Post by okie on Dec 21, 2019 12:28:49 GMT -6
That was a bad move for subscription sales.
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Dec 21, 2019 15:53:15 GMT -6
I believe that if Jesus appeared in the skies denouncing Trump the majority of American Christians would continue their religion without him.
There would spring up a new school of Christian Apologetics rationalizing how Christianity does not require Jesus.
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Post by x on Dec 21, 2019 16:53:11 GMT -6
I believe that if Jesus appeared in the skies denouncing Trump the majority of American Christians would continue their religion without him. There would spring up a new school of Chriatian Apologetics rationalizing how Christianity does not require Jesus. I'm going to steal that hot take. |
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Dec 21, 2019 19:23:39 GMT -6
It is just a fact that you can rationalize anything. It has long been known in psychology that humans had this propensity. This is why I have a problem with judicial decisions that allow for "sincerely held religious beliefs" as a justification.
If "A" is wrong, but I can come up with a rationalization for believing it to be true and this leading me to "B" then you can't conclude this leap is wrong if I came to it sincerely.
The problem here is clear. In logic, if you start from an illogical premise, then you proceed logically, you will arrive at an illogical conclusion.
Accepting "sincerely held religious beliefs" as a logical premise leads to a bad result.
All Christian Apologetics is rationalization.
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Post by daneaux on Dec 23, 2019 10:01:37 GMT -6
Given the recent and large scale example, I don't see how anyone can argue with the idea that you can rationalize just about anything.
Hopefully, the initial push-back from the godly masses will subside in the face of having to actually bow their heads and lie to a God that is part of their "sincerely held religious beliefs".
I don't know much about religion but I can't imagine that you can hide things from God by lying to him or just not telling him that you have placed your faith in an ungodly person.
You'd think that people that are so good at rationalization would be more rational.
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Post by okie on Dec 23, 2019 12:44:07 GMT -6
I believe that if Jesus appeared in the skies denouncing Trump the majority of American Christians would continue their religion without him. There would spring up a new school of Chriatian Apologetics rationalizing how Christianity does not require Jesus. I'm going to steal that hot take. I just posted this in about 10 political groups on Facebook. I would have given you credit, but I don’t know your name, so I just plagiarized you. Thanks! |
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Post by okie on Dec 23, 2019 12:47:10 GMT -6
Given the recent and large scale example, I don't see how anyone can argue with the idea that you can rationalize just about anything. Hopefully, the initial push-back from the godly masses will subside in the face of having to actually bow their heads and lie to a God that is part of their "sincerely held religious beliefs". I don't know much about religion but I can't imagine that you can hide things from God by lying to him or just not telling him that you have placed your faith in an ungodly person. You'd think that people that are so good at rationalization would be more rational. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc? |
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Post by okie on Dec 23, 2019 12:48:50 GMT -6
Once you convince people that the mainstream media is an enemy of the people, all they are left with is Facebook memes, Twitter, and tabloid journalism.
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Dec 25, 2019 17:10:39 GMT -6
I'm going to steal that hot take. I just posted this in about 10 political groups on Facebook. I would have given you credit, but I don’t know your name, so I just plagiarized you. Thanks! Everything I say is open source. |
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Post by okie on Dec 25, 2019 18:20:04 GMT -6
The majority of responses were something to the effect of. ... “but Hillary’s emails”.
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Dec 25, 2019 19:15:01 GMT -6
I get that. Whataboutism is rampant on all sides, but more so on the GOP side because they are always in lock step.
The reason a third party cannot win is because it is the conventional wisdom. But if people actually voted their values, a third party would win. And better third party candidates would run.
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Post by okie on Dec 26, 2019 0:02:14 GMT -6
A third party is not viable, regardless of the logic.
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Post by daneaux on Dec 26, 2019 9:42:49 GMT -6
"But if people actually voted their values, a third party would win."
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
If turnips were watches, I would wear one by my side.
And if ifs and ands were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers.
Good candidates don win elections. Popular ones do.
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Post by Mahatma__Ganhdi on Dec 26, 2019 11:04:45 GMT -6
Donald Trump was essentially a third party candidate
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